12-20-21 OE Monday - Luck or what?

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12-20-21 OE Monday - Luck or what?

Unread post by Dlan » Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:32 am




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Unread post by justme » Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:50 pm

Here's 2 cents worth.

A reasonable order up.

A good decision by seat 2 to play Qh to 1st trick.

A good use of the Right bower to draw the opps trump second trick.

An extremely poor play by south when he play the Kh (ordered up card), onto the 3rd trick.
This fools his partner into thinking he has no other trump. (don't fool your partner!) Knowing you have 2 trump, 2nd seat might alter his next lead to have a better chance to score 2 points. In this example, there is no real harm done but if seat 2 was also holding the Left bower, it would be reasonable for him to assume there are no more trump in anyone's hand. and, therefore play his second bower to possibly weaken the opponents off suit. Then hope you have the side suit strength to march the hand.

There is risk with the vast number of hands in euchre. At this score (3-1 you lead) calling trump here is a good risk. There is plenty of time to recover from bad luck.

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Unread post by raydog » Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:27 pm

I have found that S2 can always call with R+1. There may be times NOT to call because you want to bag, or know your partner (dealer) will call, or there is some reason you can get even more pts. But calling here has a better EV than passing.

With this particular hand, I found an EV of +0.93 when calling vs. +0.46 when passing.

As for play of the hand, I agree with the comments of justme.

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Unread post by Wes (aka the legend) » Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:08 am

With no ace to promote, leading the Right on trick 2 is really bad euchre play. S2 needs to go fishing and try to find his P's void. Holding the Right after getting the first trick, S2's team only needs one more trick to get a point. Since most dealers tend to discard green, and the dealer showed a spade on the first lead, the correct lead on 2nd street for S2 is the KC. It would not have worked in this particular hand but that's the best lead in this spot in the long run imo.

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