Cannot win any uglier than jax buried. BUT had we not called, first chair has a automatic 4 pt hand.
This is why you call it as the dealing team...

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Unread post by LeftyK » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:06 pm
Unread post by Richardb02 » Sun Feb 28, 2021 3:51 pm
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Unread post by Wes (aka the legend) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:46 am
S2 only has 1 low trump, and S4 only has 2 low trump. IOW they have 3 trump between them. Would you call from S2 in this spot? If S2 passes would you call in the dealer spot with 2 low trump + nothing in this spot?
Unread post by jblowery » Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:48 am
Unread post by Wes (aka the legend) » Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:09 am
I'd pick that hand up at any score. But back to the OP. Up 9-4 would you call with S2's hand: 1 low trump + 2 aces or S4's hand: 2 low trump + nothing.
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Unread post by Wes (aka the legend) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:12 pm
Yep, If I had to write a chapter on dealer donating this hand would be a perfect illustration. Up 9-4, dealer blocks nothing if he passes. Perfect time to order up 2 low trump, no aces, and hope to get lucky.Richardb02 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 3:51 pmI agree that ordering is the wise move, in general. BPS even supports ordering (details below). It is the best approach, IMO, with an average or unknown partner.
However, on Monday night OE games, I would have passed. By passing, the decision would be made by S4, Dealer. Any S4 player, again of Monday night caliber, would have donated from S4. The result would have been the same. I have learned that “give your partner a chance” includes the chance to order properly.
My BPS analysis:
1.00 R1S2
0.25 9h
-.50 Only 1 trump
0.75 As, Singleton green Ace
0.25 Ad, Doubleton black ace.
0.25 Qh Up Card
2.00 Subtotal, the value of the hand, too weak to order usually
+.25 9-7, or better score
+.25 Minimum donation adjustment
2.50 Order, at the minimum 2.50
+.25 for weak ordering partner, not needed but instructive
2.75 Definitely order
Unread post by Wes (aka the legend) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:22 pm
I actually agree with Richard and disagree with Edward. It's actually the opposite. If anything you should be more likely to pass a 2S semi-donate with an expert partner (becuz he won't pass biddable hands and he'll dealer donate himself) than with a random (who typically will pass biddable hands, and has no clue what dealer donating is).
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