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S1 (East) donates. Did S1 play this hand correctly?
When I donate I tend to play the hand as if the dealer was the maker. And there's two reasons I double lead offuit from S1 vs the maker-dealer:Richardb02 wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:56 pm Double leading definitely worked! Leading a fresh suit, a diamond, seems more natural. But knowing, that S1 was donating, and had a very weak hand, probably makes the double lead a better play, even in general.
Richardb02 wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:56 pmS2’s R2 play against the double lead now has to be questioned. He knows that his partner, S4 has the Right. He only has the single trump and can’t lead to partner’s Right (assuming, with strong probability, S4 has at least 2 trump). Should S2 throw off?
I like the idea of leading an off Ace is this spot becuz of the information it conveys. By leading an off ace you are letting your P know right away that you are donating, and that information can help your P play his hand more optimally. Plus those times your P has a decent hand, leading an off ace will make him less likely to get squeezed off of a trump on the first lead, and as you said this lead also gives your P a chance to short suit themselves.Tbolt65 wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:39 pm On donates I do lead aces, generally red aces and usually three of that suit to the ace if it's not red. I like to get my partner to short suit themselves by throwing off. Thats when I have no trump.
I agree but it depends. If I have a void, and say the Ts but I'm donating vs a 9s upcard, then I will NOT lead trump. The idea is that I now know that the Ts can still overtrump the dealer those times the dealer gets caught in a squeeze. Other than that, with a low trump and thus a low chance of overtrumping the dealer should he get caught in a squeeze, I will lead trump. Based on the same logic, I am always leading trump if I have no voids.Tbolt65 wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:39 pmIf I have a low trump with an off ace or no aces I lead trump.
I think it's impossible to prove which lead is better between the Ac and the Td until we run that mythical simulation. I favor the Ac for reasons already stated. Another reason I favor the Ac lead is becuz this is what we would lead if our P called in 3rd and we had no trump given that this lead usually prevents our P from getting squeezed off of a trump on the first lead and it allows him to possibly short suit himself. Given that the Ac is the best offsuit lead when our P actually has a hand and this lead has the informational advantage of letting our P know right away we are donating thus giving him the chance to adjust his play accordingly, I can't help but believe this lead is superior to the Td lead. But again who knows. I also like the Ac lead in this spot whenever I have a high trump (Ace/Left) becuz if that Ac walks I have the option of double leading the club hoping 3rd seat can trump high enough to force out the Right and possibly promote my high trump to boss status.Tbolt65 wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:39 pmHowever when I donate and I have a high single trump. I like to try to get my partner to trump in right away or lead to a possible ace. So I can get the lead to my partner. In this hand Im leading 10 of diamonds.