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Getting the 10th point means that you should loosen your calls,
But Opponents having 8 points says to tighten your calls.
Pass or Call?
I call but I can't stand this spot, but look at it this way, if you pass a next call can easily close out the game given that you have a nearly dead hand in spades, and a next call is gonna happen even more often than normal given that you would be turning down a bower. Or you pass, they call something and score a point and then they are the dealer as approx 2-1 favorites to win the game, not a fun scenario either. We can daydream about them calling diamonds but how often will that really happen anyways. So yeah I grit my teeth and call up 9-8 and hope for the best in a situation where none of our options are really that appealing.Richardb02 wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:43 pm Score You 9 Opponents 8, Right + 1!
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Getting the 10th point means that you should loosen your calls,
But Opponents having 8 points says to tighten your calls.
Pass or Call?
I agree 100% with RedWolf & Wes. This is getting scary!Richardb02 wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:43 pm Score You 9 Opponents 8, Right + 1!
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The kicker there is that you have a high chance of being able to euchre a call in next. I'd still pick it up with that score though. You have a decent enough chance of getting a point, which is all you need, and you don't have to worry about those times that first seat will try a reverse next call.Richardb02 wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:13 pm Another:
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Similar but different than the other hands!?
I would pick that up too. While you do probably have two tricks no matter what the call is, you need three to prevent the enemy from scoring at least a point. Remember, they get the deal next hand and have roughly 2-1 odds to win with a score of 9-9!Richardb02 wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:33 am I would pick it up too.
Let's sweeten the urge to pass with this hand:
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I would pick it up with this hand as well.
Can you think of any hand where you have an "Edge Hand", Seat 4, Round 1, Score 9-8; that you should not pick up?
I'll admit that I'm not sure about going alone with that hand. While it's unlikely that you'll be euchred, it's also pretty unlikely that you make the sweep. After all, the green jack is highly unlikely to take a trick. With that said though, if you're down 8-6 or so it might make sense to try it. If my side has 8 or 9 points though, I'm bringing my partner along. He could always have the ace or a trump to match up with that green jack and make march for your team. The four jack hand generally won't make more than 1 point unless you're euchring the opponent with it.Richardb02 wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:52 pm Yes, the 4 Jack Euchre Hand, is the ultimate test.
I agree though at 9-8, I am definitely picking up.
I would pick up at 9-9 as well.
Winning the game is the only goal.
If I had 6,7 or 8 points, I'm going Alone, with that hand.
I would actually go Alone whether Opponent had 0 or 9 points! But...
It is a partnership game, so if Opponent has 8 or 9, I would...
If Opponents had 9, I would Go Alone.
But if the score was 8-8, 2 points wins the game, I would pick up. But...
A game winning Loner is like a walk-off Grand Slam!
I would probably be too excited to think that far!
I would probably swing for the fences!
Play ball! Go Tampa Bay Rays! 12-4 so far.
I call. Not gonna take the chance of a spade call closing out the game.Richardb02 wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:13 pm Another:
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Similar but different than the other hands!?
I pass that hand. We now have a euchre hand, approx 2 tricks in every suit. Calling marginal (Right + 1 small trump with nothing else and getting euchred up 9-8 seems tragic when we have such a strong holding should be pass. Remember when we pass we still have 2 chances to win the game. The first chance when we have a great shot to win with our euchre hand, and if they do score a point, we get a 2nd chance with approx 35% equity. If we call we only get 1 chance to win with a very marginal holding.Richardb02 wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:33 am I would pick it up too.
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I would pick it up with this hand as well.
Can you think of any hand where you have an "Edge Hand", Seat 4, Round 1, Score 9-8; that you should not pick up?
Good points. Let me add, you trust your partner for a trick for a euchre, not just to make a call. I forgot that as I analyzed the hand. I only saw 2 tricks in my hand and stopped looking. If I had continued:Wes (aka the legend) wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:12 pm
I pass that hand. We now have a euchre hand, approx 2 tricks in every suit. Calling marginal (Right + 1 small trump with nothing else and getting euchred up 9-8 seems tragic when we have such a strong holding should be pass. Remember when we pass we still have 2 chances to win the game. The first chance when we have a great shot to win with our euchre hand, and if they do score a point, we get a 2nd chance with approx 35% equity. If we call we only get 1 chance to win with a very marginal holding.Richardb02 wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:33 am I would pick it up too.
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I would pick it up with this hand as well.
Can you think of any hand where you have an "Edge Hand", Seat 4, Round 1, Score 9-8; that you should not pick up?