Is there an ideal playing style?

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jta789
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Is there an ideal playing style?

Unread post by jta789 » Tue May 28, 2024 1:57 pm

Hi!

In euchre, as with most games, players are either described as "passive"/"conservative" and "aggressive". It always seems like conservative players win less games because they are not as willing to take risks, while playing aggressively seems to be encouraged by the experts. It also seems that conservative play is more associated with beginners.

So is there any room for personality in euchre? Is there more than one way to play? It always seems that a play or call is either correct or incorrect: but is there a gray area where it just comes down to your style? What I'm asking is, can both a conservative player and an aggressive player have similar win percentages, or is one objectively better than the other? Of course, you can't control what cards you get--and many things come down to your partner--but I'm talking about over the long run.

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Richardb02
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Unread post by Richardb02 » Sun Jun 02, 2024 5:07 pm

I'll offer my summary. You have to be a risk taker. Euchre is a game of chance. So, Euchre has rewards when you take a chance. To most people that is being aggressive. The main reason? Most people avoid risk and possibly losing a hand because of their fear of being a loser. A simple example is a major league hitter who makes an out 7 out of 10 at bats is called what? A Hall of Famer! That single example applies to almost every aspect of life. Euchre is no exception.

Of course, you must be knowledgeable enough to have a concept of the probabilities to be a calculated risk taker. You need your reward (positive points) to exceed your euchres (negative points) to a degree that results in more wins for you than your opponents. Without crunching a ton of numbers, it is reasonable to conclude that 80-85% winning hands vs. 15-20% losing hands will result in more wins.

Most people find that losing 1 our of 5 or 6 hands too uncomfortable and they will lose more games than they win. The conclusion is err on the side of being aggressive.

There are additional benefits. By ordering aggressively you will challenge yourself to improve your card play, situational aggressiveness (only passing when appropriate), adjusting to aggressive and passive players and additional knowledge. You will enjoy the complexities of the simple game of Euchre to a greater extent. Euchre can be much more than a game. It can be a lesson and greater enjoyment of life! So again, err on the side of being aggressive.

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Unread post by Tbolt65 » Tue Jun 04, 2024 5:42 pm

Richard says it pretty well. I'll add my thoughts too.


Both conservative and aggressive euchre players can have success. However being conservative can only take you so far. They will not understand parts of the game the thinking aggressive euchre has under their belt. The risks you need to take not only with calling but with your card play as well. How to play offensively and defensively.

Thus they'll have a cap to their skill level and understanding.

Ideally, now this is my personal opinion of what follows. Ideally you want to be aggressive, yes. However not too aggressive in certain situations. I can't really give a percentage on what that looks like. You must be a thinking player and know when to deviate from your typical play. To maximize your situation or to give your self a chance. There are various nuances in the game of euchre and some grey areas. Along with taking chances on these. You'll also need to make your best estimated guess.

So overall be an aggressive player but recognize Game, hand, score, partners, and opponents situations where you need to adjust.

I hope this helps.

If I didn't answer something you wanted answered or I'm unclear in explaining a detail. Let me know.

Edit: Your partner plays a big role too.

Short term anything is possible for win rates. That's goes for both conservative and aggressive play style. Plus it all depends on how well your opponents play. Win rates with be lower vs a pool of players who are above average to great players. That pool of players of such caliber is the exception not the rule. The general euchre population as a whole in terms of skill isn't very good. But with the luck factor in euchre. Anyone can beat anyone at any given time. Skill over time and the long run will show who the better players are.


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