Legal Communication in euchre, page 5


Don't help your opponents by giving away information





'Fool the opposition, not you partner' In other articles I have talked about the many different ways of communicating with your partner. The ability to pass information back and forth often results in additional points for your team. When your team names trump this is a good thing. However, that all changes when then the other team calls. Let's say, for example, you have been just ordered to pick up the queen of hearts and you already hold the ten of hearts in your hand. If use the 10 of hearts prior to using the queen, you're telling your opponents you still have at least one more trump. Had you used your queen first, the assumption would be it was your only trump. Most experienced players will remember what card they ordered and watch for it to be played. This gives them an idea where the other the trump may be. The 10 and the queen are connecting cards so using either one would not affect the strength of your hand. Anytime you are the defending team you should try to play the picked-up card first. This should be a standard play even when the cards are not connecting. Within this reasoning apply common sense, one wouldn't throw an ace to holding a 9, but throwing a queen and holding the nine shouldn't present a problem.




See the example below:

Table Position
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The dealer sits at the top of the screen in the North position. The East seat orders him to pick up the king of clubs.


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The maker(E) starts the hand by leading the 10 of trump. South plays the left. West overtakes the left with the right. North holds on to the card they picked up and plays the queen of clubs. However, by playing the queen, they are telling the maker(E) they still hold at least one more trump. The maker(E) now has more information on how best to play his hand. Because the king and queen were connecting cards they should have played the king. It would have had no effect on the strength of their hand and would have not given away any information.




Other ways of NOT sharing information:



Another good method of fooling the opposition is when the maker had led the right and you hold the cards directly under it, i.e., the left - ace. Playing the left from this connecting set is a good way of hiding you still hold the ace. This is because most inexperienced players tend to play the lowest card in their hand. Practice pulling the high card as this must be done with absolutely no hesitation. Even the slightest delay will tip off the better players to the fact that you're deciding between two cards. The idea is to not give any hint as to what remains in your hand.


Conversely, if the maker leads a small trump he is fishing for the boss trump. If you were to hold the left and a small trump, play your small trump. As I said, he's fishing, is hoping to find where the top trump are. He obviously doesn't hold the right. If by chance your partner does, you don't want them to both fall on the same trick. This may be your partner's only chance to make it good.


While I'm on the subject, we all know the ten and queen of trump connect, but how many of you stop to realize that the ten and queen of next are also connecting cards. Also pay attention to any cards already played. If in a green suit, a ten has already been played, then in your hand, a nine and a queen are now connecting cards.


Euchre is a game of spilt-second decisions. A skilled player can guess the meaning of any hesitation. They also will keep track of what cards have been played. Try and keep them guessing. Don't give away any information you don't have too.




Suggested Further Reading:

Legal Communication in euchre, page 1
How to Become a better partner

Legal Communication in euchre, page 2
Correct method of communicating with your partner

Legal Communication in euchre, page 3
Know + trust your partner's ability's

Legal Communication in euchre, page 4
Give your partner the correct information

Legal Communication in euchre, page 5
Don't help your opponents by giving away information

Legal Communication in euchre, page 6
Don't give away information - example1

Defending against a 'lone' call - 1
How to stop a lone call









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Would love a tutorial on being a good partner. Playing with a familiar partner is easy. Playing with a random partner can be a nightmare.

Posted by aaron  on Wednesday, 06.12.13 @ 15:58pm| #2250

THere are little pieces of an answer all over this site, How to put it all together in one place is a challenge. I keep real busy during the summers, between Planning and playing in the various tournaments, vacations ect.. However this fall I will see what I can come up with.

Don...

Posted by Don  on Wednesday, 06.12.13 @ 22:20pm| #2251

I need help in bidding this hand. In this scenario I am the dealer and it is the fist round. I am two suited with three trump Ace high and two low off suit. My partner is an unknown (online)so I can not judge his aggressiveness.

If the 1st position leads my off-suit two times and my partner does not take either trick I am almost always euchred.

If I manage to trump in on the first trick should I lead low trump, my ace or one of the low off-suit? It seems that I get euchred no matter what I do.

If my partner takes the first trick most of the time we make the point.
Thanks, Mars

Posted by Mars  on Monday, 02.2.15 @ 09:19am| #3363

How to you bid with timid partners?

We are from Ohio but we now live in North Carolina and no one we know can play euchre. Most of my playing is online. The strategies you have laid out on this site do not seem to work very well in online play Except when I am paired with a more experience partner but since I have moved up in the ranks my partners are almost always less experienced and timid.
They don't always bid on biddable hands so I then misjudge what they have in their hands.
They frequently will let a trick go by when they have trump (I am the maker) and I will assume that they do not have trump.
The most maddening thing is when they hold onto the right bower until the last trick.
Thanks, Mars

Posted by Mars  on Monday, 02.2.15 @ 09:38am| #3364

Mars,

If you trump the first trick, lead the lowest off-suit card in your hand (unless you have the Ace). The plan here is to get the Ace or other boss cards out so that you can trump another lead and lead out the same suit once more. This will either go around and you get your point, or it gets trumped and you most likely still get your point on the last trick. Obviously, this does not always work.

Based on experience, if I have the off-suit Ace in my hand, I lead trump after trumping the first trick. This increases the chances of the Ace going around. Always remember - you count on your partner for 1 trick (not always gonna happen obviously). You take your two tricks and you've done nothing wrong.

Posted by Scott  on Thursday, 10.1.15 @ 03:05am| #3477

Mars,

With the 2 suited hand you described, On 2nd lead - leading your off suit works best. These are hard hand to make a point from. Still its better than passing.
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Playing with unknown partners is always a challenge. Most times you can judge skill level after 1 or two hands. I have found that with less experienced partners a more conservative approach to bidding/playing works best.

Posted by Don  on Sunday, 12.6.15 @ 09:44am| #3517

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